26 7 / 2014
Anonymous said: Everyone's talking about Arianne being cut from the series, why is this a big deal?
Because if it is true, what they’ve done is taken a major POV chapter female character from the books and erased her and given her role to a male FOR LITERALLY NO REASON. WHAT IS THE REASON? WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? HOW DOES IT BENEFIT THE SHOW AND THE STORY TO TAKE AWAY ARIANNE’S STORY AND GIVE IT TO A DUDE? THERE IS NO REASON THERE’S NOT ONE REASON
and like if that wasn’t bad enough, so much of the point of bringing in Dorne and the Dornish characters is to show how differently they view and treat women within the medieval hell that is Westeros. It’s the only kingdom that doesn’t practice primogeniture and has a history of female rulers (for example, Doran and Oberyn’s mother, not their father, ruled in Dorne. BUT WHEN THEY THREW A THROWAWAY REFERENCE TO DORNE’S PREVIOUS RULER IN THE SHOW, THEY CHANGED IT TO A MAN LIKE LMAO WOW D&D DID WOULD IT REALLY FUCKING KILL YOU TO MENTION A RULING PRINCESS DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR BASIC ASS ON THE WAY OUT). The whole fucking kingdom was founded by a woman. It serves as a way to show that the misogyny is Westeros is not the norm, but a choice and that it’s not like that everywhere. It’s easy for the reader to be like ‘okay, this is a medieval-based world, of course women aren’t going to rule’, but Dorne just existing the way it does throws that completely out of the window and it’s REALLY IMPORTANT.
And like a concept so central to the asoiaf series is shining a light on how misogynistic the fantasy genre itself often is, how female characters are underdeveloped or token ‘sorceress’ villains or two-dimensional love interests. It shows through example how authors have the choice to write dynamic roles for women in a fantasy setting but just choose not to and blame it on the standard within their world? like YOU WROTE THIS WORLD. YOU INVENTED IT. YOU HAVE MADE UP THE CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS OF THIS WORLD AND WILLINGLY CHOSEN TO NOT INCLUDE WOMEN IN THAT OR SHOW HOW THEY CAN STILL HAVE STORYLINES AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IN A SETTING THAT SUFFOCATES THEM
And like by choosing FOR NO REASON (!!!!!!!!!!!!) to TAKE AWAY a female character like Arianne - who is sexual, who owns her sexuality, who uses it as a weapon, who was raised to rule, who is confident in her power, who is in cahoots with her girl gang cousins (who are all powerful in their own ways, who all identify their femininity differently and use it as a tool differently) to STAGE A COUP AND PUT A FEMALE ON A THRONE OF THE ENTIRE SEVEN KINGDOMS BY USING THE VERY LAWS OF DORNE THAT GIVE HER POWER is honestly just so fucking offensive. And stupid. And throwing one of the key tenets of the series back in its face probably because they’ve seen how ”’badass”’ people think Oberyn was and want another ”’badass”’ Dornish character just like him and of course that can’t be a woman!! No woman cool here!! Tough boy make show better!! Go jump off a cliff.
25 7 / 2014
the irony of erasing arianne with trystane is literally oustanding
like. there’s an impressive amount of ridiculousness in that choice.
'you will not rob my of my birthright, you little shit' - arianne martell, like every chapter
25 6 / 2014
You couldn’t have missed the online furor over the lack of Lady Stoneheart in the Thrones finale. Were you surprised by that attention?
I actually haven’t seen any of that. I don’t look that stuff up. I avoid it like the plague. I was totally unaware.
There was a lot of online conversation. I heard third-hand that you were basically told that it’s not likely to ever happen. Is that accurate?
Yeah, the character’s dead. She’s dead.
Do you have a preference at all—do you think Catelyn’s arc should end where it ended, or would you be into the resurrection idea?
You respect the writers’ decision. I knew the arc, and that was it. They can’t stick to the books 100 percent. It’s impossible—they only have 10 hours per season. They have got to keep it dramatic and exciting, and extraneous stuff along the way gets lost in order to maintain the quality of brilliant show.
17 6 / 2014
jayingram said: Why are people upset that people are glad Shae is dead?
Because Shae was murdered, and she didn’t deserve to be. Women in real life are constantly being murdered or assaulted by their lovers or exes, and Shae’s murder by Tyrion reflects that. I understand that the audience may like Tyrion, he’s very popular, but that doesn’t make it okay to murder someone who hurt your feelings or “betrayed” you. (Not to mention Shae was basically forced into testifying, it’s apparent, and Tyrion had dumped her so she owed him no sexual loyalty, but those are minor points.) People being happy about the death of Shae is a reflection of the misogyny and violence toward women being enabled in our real-world society. Society blames the victim. It’s not just about fictional characters. Real-life Shaes get killed every day. That’s why it bothers us.
Additionally, Tyrion is meant to be a morally grey character, not a hero- “the greyest of the grey,” according to Martin; this is what makes him fascinating. Washing away all his sins and justifying his murder of her isn’t doing the character or the novels any favors.
17 6 / 2014
Anonymous said: *slow clapping your GoT post* it's really gross when you think about how they probably excluded satin because he is a male prostitute and chataya because she is black. i'm so pissed off i was really hoping they wouldn't go down that route with shae because they changed her personality from the books.
I admit I was hopeful for awhile too, because of the changes to Shae’s initial characterization. At least until I realized that all the changes they made to Shae weren’t for SHAE, they were to make Tyrion look better (and they did the same thing with Sansa, while she was with him). Everything Shae did was in the pursuit of making Tyrion look blameless, to keep his character from (in their minds) looking even a little bit bad, even accidentally bad.
They made Shae in love with Tyrion so Tyrion doesn’t look like a fool for falling in love with a prostitute whose just doing the job he requested of her.
They made Shae nice to Sansa, bond with Sansa, protect Sansa, so Tyrion doesn’t look bad for arranging for her to be Sansa’s handmaid. Shae was never jealous of Sansa until her being so made Tyrion look good, noble and suffering while surrounded by unreasonable and hysterical womenfolk. When they wanted to make Tyrion look good for standing by the innocent Sansa, they made Shae betray her, even though the actress begged them not to. They did not intentionally have Shae be protective of a young girl whose also being abused because it spoke of her character, they did it for Tyrion. Otherwise she never would have betrayed Sansa, or they would have shown her being forced to say those things.
Shae’s ‘betrayal’ was even designed to make Tyrion look good, he sacrificed his relationship with her to protect her (and her being so naive and cavalier about the real danger she was in was ridiculous, she was a working girl, she would have to be savvy about this stuff just to survive), and she repaid him with betrayal, throwing him under the bus, taking up with his father.
Even Shae’s death was made to make Tyrion look as blameless as possible. She attacked him first (which again, is ridiculous, her job involves manipulating men regardless of her personal feelings towards them) instead of trying to appeal to him, or even stating the obvious truth that she probably didn’t have much of a choice about being there. She doesn’t even get any lines except muttering Tywin’s name.
(And yes, they did most likely cut Alayaya and Chataya not only because they are black, but because they have power and agency. They choose to be prostitutes, they enjoy their work, and most of the time they aren’t being abused or mistreated, the workers in their brothels play games and read in the foyer when not with a client, they had interests other than sex. And Satin was a pretty little rent boy who also fought off wildlings and defended the Wall, Jon treats him like an actual person, makes him his steward. Sex workers…as people…who can do things that are not sex thing????how do???such fantasy!!)